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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ultramarine blues, all considered PB29, vary
significantly among manufacturers, according to the pigment source and the
exact details of manufacture and purification (oven temp, etc.). “French”
ultramarine is, I think, called that because the details of its manufacture are
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>“Ultramarine Blue plots bluer and slightly less
saturated while French Ultramarine is slightly redder and more saturated.</span>”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But Winsor & Newton French ultramarine may be less
red than M.Graham plain ultramarine or Maimeri Ultramarine deep.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I find that I switch off between FUB and UB without
conscious purpose, but use only W&N, Daniel Smith, or M.Graham. I
advise not worrying about the name so much as whether you like the paint and whether
it suits your purposes. Exact hue under standard laboratory conditions is not
really that important, since it is relative hue in your painting that dominates
the effect. It is good to pick one that has a high saturation, pleasing
granulation, and nice working qualities.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:windowtext'> aquanet-bounces@aquanetart.com
[mailto:aquanet-bounces@aquanetart.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Patrick Davis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 03, 2010
12:35 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Aquanet] ultramarine
blue vs French ultramarine blue</span></font><font color=black><span
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Hi, gang.<br>
<br>
I notice that there are paints labelled both French UB and just UB. Is there
any real difference?<br>
<br>
I checked Handpring, and it appears that all are PB 29. I also notice DS sells
under both names- and it's PB 29. As is often the case, I am confused. Can
anyone shed light on this? Why are both names used?<br>
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the world is soooooooo confusing<br>
:-)<br>
Pat<br>
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