<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">M Graham is very much my pick. Thanks Barry for the great hints. Valerie<br><br><div><div><font color="#ff0000"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://valeriekent.com/">http://valeriekent.com</a></font></div><div><font color="#ff0000"></font> </div><div> </div><img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/47.gif"></div><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 11/18/09, Barry Lindley <i><lindleybd@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Barry Lindley <lindleybd@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Aquanet] a question that verges on heretical<br>To: "'Patrick Davis'" <peedee@nucleus.com>, "'Aquanet The_digital_Brain'" <aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net><br>Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:18 PM<br><br><div id="yiv440017264">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Golden fluid acrylics (I don’t know
about DaVinci – they may be quite different) have a very high pigment
load. They are not just tube acrylics thinned with medium, but can be thinned a
lot. So, if you want them to go further and don’t need great tinting
strength, you can extend them with acrylic medium or glazing fluid – the two
differ some in terms of drying, etc. If you simply dilute tube acrylics
with medium, you are also diluting the pigment substantially, and it just isn’t
the same.. You may find that you aren’t saving money for the same quality
of paint. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
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for the drying problems with tube acrylics:</span></font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:navy;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">If
you really want to use the acrylics more like watercolor, use a porcelain
butcher’s tray or something similar, fold up a high quality (Viva,
e.g.) non-linting paper towel, soak it with water, and lay it across one
end of the palette. Squeeze your paint into piles on this, mist from
time to time, and you can just pull whatever you need out into the mixing
space and dilute with water for painting. They will behave similarly
to regular watercolor, but when dry will not lift easily. This is
Charles Harrington’s approach (I don’t know if it is in his
book; I learned it at a workshop).</span></font></li>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:navy;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">If
you want to paint thickly with the acrylics, try Golden OPEN
acrylics. They dry quite a bit more slowly, and there are special
mediums which preserve the slow drying.</span></font></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Incidentally, M.Graham makes very high
quality acrylics, as good as Golden, but less expensive.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;"> aquanet-bounces@aquanetart.com
[mailto:aquanet-bounces@aquanetart.com] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Patrick Davis<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 18, 2009
12:56 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Aquanet The_digital_Brain<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Aquanet] a question that
verges on heretical</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext;"></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;">Hi, gang.<br>
<br>
Altho I am quite happy painting in w/c, I do have an urge to branch into
acrylics as well. I find, however, that the tube acrylics I have dry too
quickly on the palette and are also hard to work with in that they are lumpy. I
have just bought some liquid acrylics, but I am also quite frugal. (Such a nice
word!) Anyway, can I make my own liquid acrylics successfully from my old
tube stuff by putting them in a jar with water and acrylic glazing fluid, or am
I just teasing myself? I am trying it, but after sitting several days in a jar
with regular shaking up, I still have a lumpy mixture. (Okay, the acrylics sat
in a jar, not me)<br>
<br>
Any suggestions- other than working on my grammar?<br>
Pat</span></font></p>
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