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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Here is an excerpt from a post on <A
href="mailto:Book_arts-L@yahoo.com">Book_arts-L</A> concerning coffee and
tea as colorants: </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><<I held my nose and read while
coffee and tea were suggested as<BR>coloring media for ?aging? paper.
Oldfashioned restorers used coffee<BR>and tea freely for trying to match old
paper, in ignorance of the<BR>serious questions of acidity involved; but today a
binder caught<BR>using either would immediately ruin his credibility with
conservators<BR>and, even more, with preservation administrators, unless he
was<BR>willing to put up a spirited defense and had an impeccable
scientific<BR>background. Coffee and tea do not cause radical complete
destruction<BR>the way oil does, but considering how much effort now goes
into<BR>keeping various acids out of paper there should hardly be
any<BR>question of whether coffee and tea are a conservationally
sound<BR>colorants. There are serious issues here, and while there may be
a<BR>case to be made for using coffee and tea, the decision should not
be<BR>made without knowledgeable debate in light of scientific knowledge<BR>and
long experience. But on a common-sense level: ever had acid<BR>stomach from too
much coffee? Do you know how resistant the stomach<BR>lining is to acids? Do you
really need to ask if coffee is good for<BR>paper? In any case, experience with
coffee and tea stains shows that<BR>the color cannot be removed but also changes
over time; and they do<BR>not really look the color of old paper.</FONT><FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The full post is very interesting concerning other
questionable practices by artists: <A
href="http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/bookarts/2004/04/msg00212.html">http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/bookarts/2004/04/msg00212.html</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000000>Nita</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Nita Leland<BR><A
href="mailto:nita@nitaleland.com">nita@nitaleland.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.nitaleland.com">www.nitaleland.com</A><BR><A
href="http://nitaleland.blogspot.com">http://nitaleland.blogspot.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=RMGesford@aol.com
href="mailto:RMGesford@aol.com">RMGesford@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=peedee@nucleus.com
href="mailto:peedee@nucleus.com">peedee@nucleus.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net
href="mailto:Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net">Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Aquanet] tea staining
paper</DIV>
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<DIV>He explained that he soaked the paper for 4 hours in coffee first (cool
color) for 4 hrs...then in tea (warm color) for 4 hrs...then deckled the edges
by tearing the ends away while it was wet. I failed to ask if it would be acid
free...sorry...too many customers admiring his work. He was MOST generous
explaining his techniques...very nice and personable. </DIV>
<DIV> Rosemary</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/1/2009 10:11:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
peedee@nucleus.com writes:</DIV>
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size=2>RMGesford@aol.com wrote:<BR>> Hi Miriam<BR>> I met an Artist at
an outdoor Art show a few weeks ago and he worked <BR>> on tea stained
AND coffee stained paper.<BR>> It was gorgeous work. The
watercolors were of butterflies, <BR>> dragonflies, and other
wildlife.<BR>> <BR>> I didn't get a chance to ask him very many
questions...only how he got <BR>> the results. I picked up his card
and found his web site. He said he <BR>> would welcome any
questions via email. His card read 'Artist of Nature'.<BR>> His name is
Bill Scott (San Antonio, Tx).<BR>If anyone is interested further, he has a
web
site:<BR><BR>http://bill-scott.com//origin.php<BR><BR>FWLIW<BR>pat<BR>Aquanet
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