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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s good to hear of your
experience, David. M.Graham paints (see the far right column in Nita’s
chart) also remain workable for a very long time and are of the highest grade
in terms of pigment quality and load. Holbein is actually a Japanese
manufacturer; the Vermont/Montreal company is simply the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> distributor.
M.Graham is a small Oregon Company and quite delightful and helpful in terms
of technical information, samples, etc. They make their paint right there, and
Diana Graham is always willing to answer questions. I have used their
watercolors, gouache, oils, and acrylics, and have found them all perfectly
suitable. My working palettes are all predominantly M.Graham.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Holbein’s Peacock Blue is one paint
that I haven’t found a good counterpart of – an intense greenish
blue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Contemporary Brush";color:navy'>Barry D.
Lindley</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font color=navy face="Contemporary Brush"><span
style='font-family:"Contemporary Brush";color:navy'>Paintings and Drawings</span></font><font
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</span></font><i><font size=2 color=navy face=Century><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Century;color:navy;font-style:italic'>www.BarryLindleyArt.com</span></font></i><font
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[mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Becker<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 09, 2008
12:08 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Aquanet] Fw: paint
brands?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Back a few years ago I was using mostly a variety of
brands which consisted of WN, Daniel Smith, and a few talen van gogh which is
what I had recommended to students that didn’t have a lot of money to
spend but needed a good amount of paint. Then about three years ago I went with
Maimeriblu Watercolor because I was going to endorse it but I hated the way
that paint felt and lucky for me they didn’t treat me very nice at the
Expo in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Burbank</st1:place></st1:City>
so I dropped them. At the same time however Linda Kemp introduced me to the
people over at Holbein and they were giving me their sales pitch and I
wasn’t going to fall into that trap again so I asked them for about 10
tubes of paint and I would test them and get back to them about if I wanted to
endorse their watercolors in my workshops. They claimed that their watercolors
won’t dry to a hard rock on your W/C palette but instead a rubbery blob.
So that was right around the holidays and I squeeze out a pretty good helping
of paint into a new palette, they said that you should squeeze out a lot of
paint because you won’t be wasting it because with just a squirt of water
it becomes very manageable again. I also thought I better squeeze in other
brands of paint to see what they do. The holidays came upon our class so I left
the palette on a top shelf in our classroom for 5 weeks with just the top of
the palette on it. We came back in January and opened the palette and the
results were: The Talen Van Gogh 2.00dollar tubes were pretty hard, I pried
them out of the palette cut them in half and wet them to see how well I could
get them to loosen up again. It took a lot of rubbing and mooching around to
get it loosened up. The WN and Daniel smiths paints varied by the color some were
harder then others but weren’t to bad but most had a harder shell that
you could break through to get more juicy paint. The Holbein paints were sticky
to the touch and when sprayed with water would loosen up very easily. I was
very much surprised but I wasn’t totally sold until I knew what colors
they had and how they handled. I called them and asked for 10 more colors from
their chart which they sent. WOW 20 colors that I didn’t pay for, I
figure even if I didn’t endorse them in the end I would have still come
ahead in the end. I did a bunch of washes on scrap pieces of paper in my class
and had the class also help with seeing how they liked the feeling of
painting with the Holbein W/C paints. Our conclusion was that Holbein paints
were very smooth and many of the colors we used were very intense. I felt that
I could mix some of the best grays because of the intense colors. The only
thing we didn’t like was that the names were different and we
couldn’t figure out which color compared to the other makers colors. They
didn’t have any Quinacradone colors on their list so I questioned
them about that, their answer was that they were the first to have colors of
that intensity like the color Opera. I am still testing many of their paints
and am finally figuring out which colors I like that compare to the colors that
I was using before.<br>
I now use mostly Holbein and I have one or 2 other colors of WN & Daniel
Smiths in my palette, but I have come to love the Holbein paints and in the end
decided to endorse them.<br>
That was one of the better decisions I made and found their products and the
people at Holbein to be wonderful. <br>
Funny that when I was in Vermont this last July I found out that the Holbein
family started in the business of paints in Montreal as the W/N main
distributors.<br>
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That’s my 2 cents<br>
David</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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