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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=patchapin@mindspring.com
href="mailto:patchapin@mindspring.com">patchapin@mindspring.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=carrieholst@hotmail.com
href="mailto:carrieholst@hotmail.com">Carrie Holst</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 15, 2008 9:04 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Aquanet] AWS controversy</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>I wondered how long it was going to take
the fine art world to experience something on this order and scale. My
stuff is commercial and my copyrights are registered; the attorney I use for
copyright infringement has gone after people using my work on everything from
rubber stamps to bedsheet sets (urgh). I've heard enough stupid excuses
("we thought it was copyright free") and arguments ("I added that little
lighthouse in the background, so it's mine now"). The people involved either
have protected themselves from long experience, or don't have enough assets
to make a judgment collectable, even for costs, but I pursue anyway,
because it needs to be a matter of record. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>So, the 'Net has an upside and a downside
-- your work gets more exposure than otherwise possible, but by the same token
your images can be lifted by that many more people. I don't have any
trouble identifying the 'artist' as the guilty party, and I know the AWS
probably doesn't have membership as computer-savvy as it ought, but it is the
one which will take the lasting hit.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>Worst thing is, this will happen
again unless painters police themselves -- this dame blatantly ripped off the
entire artistic community, and denigrates the artistic concept. When
you see an infraction and are sure of your facts, don't tell another artist only
-- tell a show chair, tell the gallery or shop director, tell the public,
tell the news media. Remember, the public at large already thinks artists
are skewed -- what does this tell them?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>pat chapin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><A
href="http://www.patchapin.com">www.patchapin.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=carrieholst@hotmail.com href="mailto:carrieholst@hotmail.com">Carrie
Holst</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net
href="mailto:aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net">aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 15, 2008 7:59
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Aquanet] AWS
controversy</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The wet canvas thread is a great read, You can get all the
information within the first several pages. It is pretty hard to dispute
the image overlay of the photograph then the painting. Every strand of hair is
identical. AWS has volunteers just like every watercolor society, I can see
how they want to trust people that say they are entering original work. The
young woman made a bad choice and will most likely be sued by a couple or more
photographers.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>carrie
holst<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <BR><BR><BR> <BR>
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<BR>Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:24:39 -0500<BR>From:
watercolorist@artmaker.com<BR>To: Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net<BR>Subject:
Re: [Aquanet] AWS controversy<BR><BR>
<META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator>Well, as my grandmother used
to say, "I do know!"<BR><BR>There have been so many things that have happened
to me, mostly about some graphics, not paintings,<BR>and I used to fight it
but finally I gave up. One of my little animated fairies is on the
myspace page of free<BR>graphics people can use on their pages.
<BR><BR>I do use images of flowers that people that are friends of mine at
webshots have taken. This is due to the<BR>fact that because of health
issues, my getting out has been limited. Recent surgery has greatly
improved<BR>this so I hope I will be out there a lot more with my
camera. However, I have a whole page at webshots<BR>where people have
been honored to give me carte blanche on using their pictures. But I
never use one<BR>without it.<BR><BR>But this seems so absolutely blatant, what
CAN she have been thinking? That nobody would notice?<BR>I think if so,
she was really living in dreamland.<BR><BR>Sad, sad.<BR>Cia<BR><BR>Jack
Russell wrote: <BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Since it seems to be quiet here
on the Aquanet list, I thought I’d pass along something that has become a
heated discussion on the Wet Canvas website. Apparently, the gold medal
winner at the 2008 American Watercolor Society show has been accused of
copyright infringement. The painting in question is a combination of two
photographs taken by a photographer who claims not to have given the winning
artist permission to reproduce the images. In addition, there seems to be
some question as to whether the winning painting is really a painting at all
or, perhaps, a high quality print. The “print or painting” discussion has
arisen among photographers who point to a flaw in the photo being visible in
the winning painting.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here’s the link to the ongoing
discussion at Wet Canvas (be advised it’s already 14 pages long and still
growing) . . .</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515288"
target=_blank>http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515288</A></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the gold medal winner is
ultimately proven to be a fraud, it would seem to put the AWS in a very
awkward position, especially if the “painting” turns out not to be a
painting at all. As someone who’s never entered a show, I’m fascinated by
this story and somewhat surprised that a prestigious group such as the AWS
doesn’t do more stringent “vetting” of submissions to its annual
show.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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