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<font size="+1"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Thanks so much, I downloaded
Kompozer and will go read that tutorial if I ever have time!!!!!<br>
I have zeroed in on something to paint, and I have not picked up a
brush in 2 months! I'm happy about<br>
that! It's another flower, of course.<br>
<br>
Cia<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi Cecilia,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-US">I
am not exactly sure how
much better Kompozer is compared to NVU, but what actually made me
decide to go
for it was the tutorial by Christopher Heng. Browsing on the net you
soon realize
that good tutorials are scarce to say the least and this is an
excellent one. It
guides you step by step through the creation of a sample site, simple
but having
most of the necessary features, while explaining the basic principle. I
would
suggest following carefully the step by step process: whenever
something was
going wrong it was because my trying to be too smart and reading too
fast!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-US">Gilles<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net">aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net">mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Cecilia Price<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday,
February 05, 2008
5:44 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'aquanet'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Aquanet]
web sites</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#006600" face="Comic Sans MS"
size="4"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS";">Hi
Gilles, After I wrote
my referral for NVU, I saw this email from you, and I promptly am
downloading
Kompozer.<br>
Anything that will assist us in building websites has to be a good
thing.
Can't wait to try this!<br>
<br>
The site I have recently started with NVU is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cecilia-antoinette-price.com">http://www.cecilia-antoinette-price.com</a><br>
but have not had much chance to work on it.<br>
<br>
What's your URL? Anybody else's URLs? Let's see 'em!<br>
Cia<br>
</span></font><br>
Gilles Durand wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">I do not qualify
to advise as my site is
not yet on the air and still at a prototype stage, but I can share my
tribulations. Like you I was looking for a low insertion entry point
(both
technically and cost-wise) and after having been wrongly advised to buy
Namo
Web Editor, cheap but that I found cumbersome to use and quite
inflexible, I
search the web for freeware stuff.<u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">Initially I
considered NVU, but then turned
to Kompozer, an "NVU's unofficial bug fix release", that you can
download at <a href="http://www.kompozer.net/download"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.kompozer.net/download</a>.<u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">I found a very
clear, hands-on tutorial
(How to Design and Publish Your Website with KompoZer) by Christopher
Heng at </span></font><span lang="EN"><a
href="http://www.thesitewizard.com/" target="_top"
moz-do-not-send="true">thesitewizard.com</a><u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">Like NVU it is a
wysiwyg editor that lets
you play with the resulting HTML code if you like (and probably will in
my
experience). I found essentially no limitation as to achieving the
functionalities and the look and feel I wanted (but I did not try to
implement
fancy bells and whistles anyway). <u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">A guy of the
trade who looked at my site
tells me the tool generates un-necessary code, but I think this is true
of all
wysiwyg editors and it does not bother me much. Also he advises me to
use css
files to separate data from style information (the way data will appear
on the
page). And there I am prepared to consider that more seriously, as
using css is
especially important if you have multiple pages sharing the same style
(which I
do). It makes maintenance easier, a change in the style sheet (css
file)
applying to all pages calling the file and the addition/ change of
pages using
the style also made simpler. But I must say I did not investigate on
how to do
that using Kompozer (the tool is supposed to support css) and I am
still
pondering whether I should just complete the current version and let it
fly as
is or make the move to css first…<u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">If members of the
list have gone through a
similar experience, I'd sure be glad to hear about their findings too!<u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">Regards,<u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">Gilles<u5:p></u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><u5:p> </u5:p></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net">aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net">mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net</a>]
On Behalf Of pat davis<br>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:10 PM<br>
To: aquanet<br>
Subject: [Aquanet] web sites<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi, gang.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">It's me again*, el cheapo
Patrick.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">What I'd like to know is if
any of you have done your
own web pages <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">using any of the free HTML
editors, esp a 'wysiwyg'
editor. I'm thinking <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">of doing a simple web page
since I have one included
in my ISP <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">subscription. At the same time
I don't want to spend a
lot of (Okay, <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">ANY) money since mainly I just
want to play around
with this.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">If any of you are/were in the
same boat, please let me
know.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">TIA for sure<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">pat<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">* Okay, I know that if my
English was really
"propah" I'd write, "It is <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I" but I'm contrary. :-)<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Aquanet mailing list<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net">Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net</a><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.thedigitalbraintrust.net/mailman/listinfo/aquanet">http://lists.thedigitalbraintrust.net/mailman/listinfo/aquanet</a><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Check out the Aquanet web site:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font color="#006600" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.aquanetart.com">http://www.aquanetart.com</a><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="#006600" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Aquanet mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="#006600" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net">Aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="#006600" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.thedigitalbraintrust.net/mailman/listinfo/aquanet">http://lists.thedigitalbraintrust.net/mailman/listinfo/aquanet</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="#006600" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Check out the Aquanet web site:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="#006600" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.aquanetart.com">http://www.aquanetart.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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