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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Miriam,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mineral Violet is
occasionally used by Charles Reid to punch a pure color note, and mentionned in
his supply list, usally as optional.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Barry is right on mixing,
and Charles usually mixes his violets (on paper beware!).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That being said, I think
the Mineral Violet Charles uses, is from Holbein as he mostly uses Holbein and
W&N. He favors Holbein because their tube paints do not become crumbly when
drying and retain a creamy consistency in palette wells. Their mineral violet
is a complex of silica, alumina, soda and sulfur and I am pretty sure it is
PV15, although I did not find it mentioned on Holbein website. It is the same
pigment that W&N use in their Ultramarine Violet (which Charles also mentions
alternatively to Mineral Violet in some descriptions of his palette). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PV15 is indeed a mineral
pigment, although different from Maimeri and other PV16 Manganese based Mineral
Violets, and it will behave as such, in particular it won't be staining like Winsor
Violet (PV23), a heavily staining synthetic pigment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The hues of Winsor Violet
and W&N Ultramarine Violet (and so Holbein Mineral Violet I infer) are
close though. They are different from the Manganese based Mineral Violets,
which are much closer to red.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>W&N Ultramarine Violet
PV15 is also more transparent than both Winsor Violet and PV16 Mineral Violet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Personally I use W&N
Ultramarine Violet (very – very occasionally) as Holbein paints are not
available in France.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Given all that technical
data, I should add that in his workshops Charles professes anyway that the exact
paints you use has little importance, much less than knowing how they behave,
by themselves and mixed. That is what he says, and he is right of course, but
in the end I came to use a palette close to his…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am sure you'll enjoy the
workshop. Charles is not only a wonderful artist, but also a great teacher and a
wonderful person. Give him a hello from me!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My very best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gilles Durand<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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color:windowtext'> aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net
[mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Barry D. Lindley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 09, 2007
5:03 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'pat davis'; 'miriam'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'aquanet'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Aquanet] mineral
violet?</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pat’s information
is right on the mark. Mineral or Manganese Violet is very different from
Winsor or carbazole violet (=dioxazine purple). Mn Violet is lighter in
value and more interesting in texture by far, but you cannot get very dark with
it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My Daniel Smith is
somewhat duller than cobalt violet, which is also fairly light in value, nice
in texture, somewhat warmer. I think that, except for delicate florals,
you are much better off with the ultramarine/rose mixture suggested in
Handprint – much more versatile. Mn Violet is not worth the money,
unless you want its special delicacy and textural effects, and I would prefer
Co Violet in those cases, if you are happy with the warmer hue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>M.Graham is bringing out
a mineral violet in their new additions, but I haven’t had a chance to
test theirs yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net
[mailto:aquanet-bounces@thedigitalbraintrust.net] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>pat <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">davis</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 08, 2007
6:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> miriam<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> aquanet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Aquanet] mineral
violet?</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi, Miriam<br>
<br>
I went to the paints section at Handprint and below is the information I got.
Mineral violet is the Maimeri name, but apparently it is PV 16 so the same
pigment is used as shown by other manufacturers. I have not used any of these
personally, however, so there may be differences.<br>
<br>
FWIW<br>
pat<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>PV16</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>manganese ammonium pyrophosphate
(1868)</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>manganese violet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Daniel Smith<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>038<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>62<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>327<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=3
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>8,8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>PV16</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>permanent mauve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winsor & Newton<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>491<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>68<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>332<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>+3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>8,8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>PV16</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>mineral violet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>460<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>64<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>329<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>+2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>8,8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>PV16</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>manganese violet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>DaVinci<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>254<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>60<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>332<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>+7<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>8,8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>PV16</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>manganese violet - blue<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Old <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Holland</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>196<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>48<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>334<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>+4<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#993300" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#993300'>8,5</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td colspan=4 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/IMG/RC/rcPV16.jpg"><span
style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=8 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="cid:image001.gif@01C83A9F.60E8F4F0"></span></a> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Manganese
violet PV16 is a very lightfast, semitransparent, lightly staining, dark
valued, dull <a href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/palette1.html#purple"
target="_top"><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>purple</span></b></a>
pigment, available from 4 pigment manufacturers worldwide. The <a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/pigmt6.html#bluetable" target="_top"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>ASTM</span></b></a> (1999) rates its lightfastness
in watercolors as "excellent" (I) and my 2004 tests agree. In
watercolors PV16 undergoes a moderate <a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/cds.html" target="_top"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>drying shift</span></b></a>, lightening and
losing saturation. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>The PV16 pigment is very consistent across paint
manufacturers. <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Daniel Smith manganese
violet</span></b> was a principal source for this pigment: slightly bluer and
lighter valued than other brands, and blossoming more when rewetted. The
Winsor & Newton permanent mauve, previously available only in dry pans,
is now (2005) available in a tube formulation; it has a slightly less
saturated, and darker color that lightens into effective tints and lifts
almost completely to produce cutouts or sculptured edge effects. The
MaimeriBlu mineral violet is more staining and very opaque. Hilary Page noted
discoloration in her sample of Old Holland, which may not have been a single
pigment paint; my swatch began life as a dull, scabby purple, not at all
pleasant to look at, and the vehicle (or pigment?) discolored to a browish
cast after about a month of sunlight exposure. Two thumbs down! </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>PV16 is the most lightfast balanced purple pigment
available in watercolors, and its recent addition to the DaVinci and
Winsor & Newton is a welcome development. While it has an assertive
and distinctive pigment personality, this becomes less conspicuous when the
paint is part of a shadow mixture. It is attractive both in full strength and
wash applications, but for the most characteristic color appearance it must
be applied with confident, juicy brushstrokes and left to dry without fussing
or retouching. It is especially good in floral painting, both as a muted
floral color and to add texture and body to browns mixed with deep yellow or
orange paints. The same hue can be mixed from ultramarine blue (<a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterb.html#PB29"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>PB29</span></b></a>) with quinacridone rose (<a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterc.html#PV19R"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>PV19</span></b></a>) or quinacridone violet (<a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterc.html#PV19B"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>PV19</span></b></a>), depending on whether you want
more saturation or darker values. In many respects, PV16 handles like
thioindigo violet (<a href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterc.html#PR88"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>PR88</span></b></a>) and can play a similar role in
landscape or botanical palettes. See also the section on <a
href="http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/pigmt1b.html#manganese" target="_top"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>manganese</span></b></a> pigments.<br>
<a name=PV23> </a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<br>
miriam wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Mineral Violet was on my supply list for an upcoming<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Charles Reid workshop.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Has anyone used it and is it different from Cobalt Violet/ Winsor Violet or Carbolzene Violet?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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