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Hi Miriam.<br>
Let us know what you find out. I'm very curious. <br><br>
I should add that Graham's gouache is different from all other's that
I've tried. They don't add whites or fillers. They grind the
pigment very very fine to make it opaque. <br><br>
The gouache lifts easily and if she used a glazing technique, the first
layer may have lifted and mixed with the second layer. If
complimentary colors were used, the result may have been a grey or a
MUDDY color.<br><br>
Carol<br><br>
</font><font size=3>At 06:44 AM 10/30/2007, miriam wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">It is possible she was using
student grade or gauche.<br><br>
I am going to contact her to find out.<br>
She said they weren't cheap but her tubes lacked luminousity and
transparency.<br>
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----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Carol Wickenhiser-Schaudt <watercolorist@schaudt.us><br>
To: aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net<br>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:38:47 PM<br>
Subject: [Aquanet] Chalky Graham paints<br><br>
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Miriam,<br><br>
Just a thought. Check to see if your student is using Graham
Gouache instead of their watercolors. I know an artist who used
them by mistake. The tubes are very similar in look to their
watercolors. My friend watered them down and painted thin washes
and tried to glaze with them, which might be an answer as to why your
student's paints looked that way.<br><br>
Carol Schaudt<br><br>
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At 05:00 PM 10/29/2007, miriam wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I swear by Daniel Smith
Quinacridone Gold for that sunflower yellow color you are looking
for.<br>
Nice transparent and brilliant.<br><br>
I also love all colors put out by Holbein and they stay very moist in my
palette.<br>
So if I were experimenting for a new one I'd go there. (best price on
<a href="http://dickblick.com">dickblick.com</a>)<br><br>
I have a student that uses Graham and the pigments are very chalk and not
as brilliant.<br>
I don't recommend those<br>
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----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Barry D. Lindley <bdlindley@sbcglobal.net><br>
To: Lorraine Dietrich <dietrich11@sympatico.ca>;
aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net<br>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:30:18 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Aquanet] for a better Indian Yellow - meeting with Renée
Sirois<br><br>
</font><font size=2 color="#000080">Hi, Lorraine-<br>
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</font><font size=2 color="#000080">I generally don’t like DaVinci
paints. I don’t know what pigment they include in their Indian Yellow,
since it is not given on their web site. However, Cheap Joe’s
American Journey Indian Yellow is a mix, PO62/PY97, and I think it may be
made by DaVinci. PY97 is Hansa Yellow Medium, and PO62 is Winsor
Orange, so you are getting a mixture. A good single pigment paint
is more likely to give consistent results, and you can always make your
own convenience mixture with more suitable yellows and oranges, if you
wish.<br>
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</font><font size=2 color="#000080"> I have Daniel Smith Indian
Yellow (PY108); it is a nice warm yellow paint in hue and character, but
it has only moderate lightfastness, according to Handprint. The
various Indian Yellow (hues) from different manufacturers use a variety
of pigments. Rowney, for example, is PY163, which Daniel Smith uses
for his New Gamboge (also a nice paint, which I have used more than
Indian Yellow).<br>
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</font><font size=2 color="#000080">M.Graham is bringing out an expanded
range in November, which may offer some excellent paints for your
purposes. They will have an Indian Yellow hue using PY110 (equiv to
DS Permanent Yellow Deep), also a Nickel Azo Yellow (PY 150, also offered
by DS as Ni AzoY and by WN as Transparent Y). Both of these should
be well worth trying. There will be a lot of other excellent new
offerings in the Graham line, and I am looking forward to trying them
out.<br>
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</font><font size=2 color="#000080">Barry<br>
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</font><font size=3 color="#000080">Barry D. Lindley<br>
Paintings and Drawings<br>
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<a href="http://www.aristotle.net/%7Eblindley">
www.aristotle.net/~blindley</a></i></font><font size=3 color="#000080">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lorraine Dietrich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 29, 2007 2:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> aquanet@thedigitalbraintrust.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Aquanet] for a better Indian Yellow - meeting with Renée
Sirois<br>
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<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=4>Bonjour<br>
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</font><br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=4>I had my latest surgery in the
jaw, hope this one will be the last. I'm still on soft food for more than
10 days to go, I will certainly enjoy a juicy steack to celebrate, if the
surgeon approves the results. I'll see him soon for the follow-up visit.
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<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=4>I need your help to find a
better INDIAN YELLOW . The one I have is Da Vinci, excellent
lightfastness but dries into a too dull result I woud like to improve. I
would like it more brilliant, intense, glowing, just like a sunflower's
dream, and of course, excellent ratings in lightfastness, transparent or
semi-transparent, tell me also the brand and if it granulates. Send your
suggestions to the list so many will benefit from your experience. <br>
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<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=4>By the way, just received a
tube of Cobalt Teal Blue from Daniel Smith, what a beautiful color, very
clear washes, excellent behavior on paper, very different from the
greenish look shown in the latest Wilcox Guide.... I love it !!!<br>
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<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=4>I met Renée Sirois (Aquanet
member) yesterday in a Painting Presentation at the shopping Mall in
Shawinigan . She was doing wonders on a portrait from an oriental lady.
The very transparent glazes she was using in her face were very luminous.
Congratulations.<br>
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<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=4>Many Thanks in advance for the
Indian Yellow .....<br>
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<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>LORRAINE P. DIETRICH, iaf,
news<br>
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