[Aquanet] paint brands

Wed Oct 8 08:45:57 EDT 2008

Nita,
thanks for the chart. I was actually just looking at your book from a magazine ad last night. Now I know that I need it!

 Rosie

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   2. Re: paint brands? (NitaLeland)

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The time has come, I guess, for me to clear some of my taboret, and before 
I begin on this odious project, I figured I might ask you guys if you have 
'favourites' in paint brands.

I know a lot of people are with Winsor 
& Newton because they started with them, or their student brand 
Cotman.  I started with Grumbacher and am still partial to some of their 
paints.

But there are so many companies and some of them I've never 
tried, or not tried in so long my knowledge is not current, and I'm curious -- 
me, I like different colours in different brands, but if I had to stick with 
one, it would probably be Graham or Smith, although I'm really fond of 
some 
Holbein hues, and then there's the Talens.................. but that might be 
tainted, as they asked me to 'test' paints for a bit.

Input here 
please?  Just opinions, is all, something for me to chew over before I 
decide what I ditch and what I keep?

pat chapin
www.patchapin.com

The time has come, I guess, for me to clear some of my taboret, and before 
I begin on this odious project, I figured I might ask you guys if you have 
'favourites' in paint brands.

I know a lot of people are with Winsor 
& Newton because they started with them, or their student brand 
Cotman.  I started with Grumbacher and am still partial to some of their 
paints.

But there are so many companies and some of them I've never 
tried, or not tried in so long my knowledge is not current, and I'm curious -- 
me, I like different colours in different brands, but if I had to stick with 
one, it would probably be Graham or Smith, although I'm really fond of 
some 
Holbein hues, and then there's the Talens.................. but that might be 
tainted, as they asked me to 'test' paints for a bit.

Input here 
please?  Just opinions, is all, something for me to chew over before I 
decide what I ditch and what I keep?

pat chapin
www.patchapin.com

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The attached chart is based on tests I've done over 
the past many years, updated when brands added or discontinued colors, when I 
was able to keep up with it. There are many brands I've tested that didn't meet 
my specifications, so they aren't on the chart. This would include all student 
grades and some that purport to be artists' colors but aren't sufficiently 
pigmented to suit me. It's a very individual thing. You don't need to stick to 
one brand unless you really like it, but you also don't need a gazillion colors. 
I used to like Grumbacher, too, and it was on the list, but the company changed 
hands and product so much over a period of time that even the artist's colors 
weren't reliable, so they fell off the chart, so to speak. There are others that 
are hard to find in the stores (Old Holland) that aren't on my chart, although I 
do use one of their colors and buy it wherever I can find it (Blue 
Violet).

Most of my colors are WN, so they are in the first 
column, and colors that I think are equivalent in other brands are in the rows 
across. If I don't like a particular color or if it isn't available in a brand, 
the space is blank. My current direction is not to be brand-specific, but to 
look for ASTM color-index names like PB15 for phthalo blue. Then you don't end 
up with one each of every brand with a different name (Winsor Blue, Rembrandt 
Blue, Thalo Blue, Intense Blue, etc.) that are all the same color, PB15. 

There's a two-page color chart in my new Confident 
Color book that shows 70 colors, giving their composition and color index names, 
along with their common names, that might also be a useful guide. (I think I 
just said please buy my book).

Anyway, I hope the attached chart 
helps.

Nita

Nita Leland
nita at nitaleland.com
www.nitaleland.com
http://nitaleland.blogspot.com 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: patchapin at mindspring.com 
To: Aquanet at thedigitalbraintrust.net 
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:10  PM
Subject: [Aquanet] paint brands?

The time has come, I guess, for me to clear some of my taboret, and  before I begin on this odious project, I figured I might ask you guys if you  have 'favourites' in paint brands.

I know a lot of people are with  Winsor & Newton because they started with them, or their student brand  Cotman.  I started with Grumbacher and am still partial to some of their  paints.

But there are so many companies and some of them I've never  tried, or not tried in so long my knowledge is not current, and I'm curious --  me, I like different colours in different brands, but if I had to stick with  one, it would probably be Graham or Smith, although I'm really fond of 
some Holbein hues, and then there's the Talens.................. but that  might be tainted, as they asked me to 'test' paints for a bit.

Input  here please?  Just opinions, is all, something for me to chew over before  I decide what I ditch and what I keep?

pat chapin
www.patchapin.com

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The attached chart is based on tests I've done over 
the past many years, updated when brands added or discontinued colors, when I 
was able to keep up with it. There are many brands I've tested that didn't meet 
my specifications, so they aren't on the chart. This would include all student 
grades and some that purport to be artists' colors but aren't sufficiently 
pigmented to suit me. It's a very individual thing. You don't need to stick to 
one brand unless you really like it, but you also don't need a gazillion colors. 
I used to like Grumbacher, too, and it was on the list, but the company changed 
hands and product so much over a period of time that even the artist's colors 
weren't reliable, so they fell off the chart, so to speak. There are others that 
are hard to find in the stores (Old Holland) that aren't on my chart, although I 
do use one of their colors and buy it wherever I can find it (Blue 
Violet).

Most of my colors are WN, so they are in the first 
column, and colors that I think are equivalent in other brands are in the rows 
across. If I don't like a particular color or if it isn't available in a brand, 
the space is blank. My current direction is not to be brand-specific, but to 
look for ASTM color-index names like PB15 for phthalo blue. Then you don't end 
up with one each of every brand with a different name (Winsor Blue, Rembrandt 
Blue, Thalo Blue, Intense Blue, etc.) that are all the same color, PB15. 